crouching_sin: (you'll be pleadin' while you're bleedin')
Naoya ([personal profile] crouching_sin) wrote2015-03-10 03:11 pm

[Anon] [Text]

Here's a question for you all. It's something that I read a while back, and I'm interested in your answers. Anonymous is fine, if you want.

There are five patients in a hospital. All of them are dying due to complications with various organs. All of them will die within the next day or so if they don't get an organ transplant. Magic won't save any of them, incidentally, if you were hoping to use that.

A young backpacker comes into the hospital or a checkup. He has no relatives, and he is in excellent health. As it happens, you, the surgeon on duty, notice that he is a perfect match for all five of the patients.

Assuming the backpacker does not give consent, is it morally permissible to cut him up and transfer the organs to the other patients? These are not organs that the backpacker can live without, so he'll die if you do.

I'm interested to hear what you think.
doitrockapella: (SMUG ❖ smarter than a fifth-grader)

anonymous text;

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2015-03-11 12:47 am (UTC)(link)
Anonymity isn't all it's cracked up to be.
doitrockapella: (BACKFLIP ❖ spread these wings of mine)

anonymous text;

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2015-03-11 01:15 am (UTC)(link)
At least until you give away too many tells. Then its use ends up becoming moot.
conquersworlds: (WHY ✯ so i just stab her in the rear?)

[personal profile] conquersworlds 2015-03-11 01:17 am (UTC)(link)
[...Wh...]

What the actual hell is wrong with you.

[Even evil has standards, and Jinnai's...apparently stop short of the stolen organ extravaganza that is this question.]
doitrockapella: (BOW ❖ holy shit was that an honorific)

anonymous text;

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2015-03-11 01:23 am (UTC)(link)
And yet in the end, they're still only identities. Some things never change.
doitrockapella: (DEADPAN ❖ would you like a hint)

anonymous text;

[personal profile] doitrockapella 2015-03-11 01:26 am (UTC)(link)
Meaning, you have no identity whatsoever save for whatever is most convenient at any given moment?

That's a sorry way to live.
evilfrenzy: (♟ can we not)

[anon text]

[personal profile] evilfrenzy 2015-03-11 01:28 am (UTC)(link)
[Well, this is cute.

Here's an actual doctor offering his two cents!]


I wasn't aware that tissue typing is part of a regular checkup.

I'll humor you though. I wouldn't run the risk of cutting him open, regardless if his records say he has no relatives. It's highly unlikely that he is completely cut off from society, so someone will come looking for him eventually. That, and there is no guarantee that the patients' bodies will accept the transplant even if the man's organs were a match. How unfortunate it would be to have multiple dead patients and a dead backpacker to deal with?

They would be better off with magic, honestly. I don't know about your definition of magic, but it most certainly can save patients with organ failure.


[...what a doctor, amirite.]
conquersworlds: (INQUIRE ✯ and who the hell asked you)

[personal profile] conquersworlds 2015-03-11 01:38 am (UTC)(link)
And that exempts the asker from criticism for posing it in the first place?
adai: (DONE ✧ you guys never listen to me)

[personal profile] adai 2015-03-11 01:42 am (UTC)(link)
I'm glad to hear that.

[...]

While I don't appreciate your question, I do understand why you'd be curious about it. Thank you for clarifying that for me.
conquersworlds: (WHY ✯ so i just stab her in the rear?)

[personal profile] conquersworlds 2015-03-11 01:43 am (UTC)(link)
...You know, my teachers are actually really bad examples for this, you might want to try using another rhetorical question to try to pointlessly assert yourself.
fony: (snakes???)

[text, not anon]

[personal profile] fony 2015-03-11 01:50 am (UTC)(link)
you cant cut a guy up without his permission!

[Ahuh, that's the part of the text he decided to focus on.]
Edited 2015-03-11 01:51 (UTC)
conquersworlds: (LECTURE ✯ that's what she said)

[personal profile] conquersworlds 2015-03-11 01:57 am (UTC)(link)
Something like that.

I guess if you really want an answer to whatever went wrong with you today, it's obviously not morally permissible but that doesn't mean it's not an option. If a surgeon doesn't have consent to do it but is actually considering it anyway, I'm pretty sure morals are already so far off the table it's not even a point anymore.
conquersworlds: (HMM ✯ that's some majora's mask shit)

[personal profile] conquersworlds 2015-03-11 02:04 am (UTC)(link)
It...depends, I think.
fony: (angry talk)

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[personal profile] fony 2015-03-11 02:05 am (UTC)(link)
No! i mean he should at lest have a choice in the matter, you cant force him into it.

besides, what if those five other people end up dying anyway?
Edited 2015-03-11 02:05 (UTC)

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